Fallout 4

Discussion in 'Video Games' started by Komodo Saurian, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. NuclearWastE3

    NuclearWastE3 The Toxic Avenger
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    I saw what you had originally posted up Komodo. I checked onto the forums only minutes after you had put up the "Fallout 4" thread last night, for me it was 10:37 PM, looked at it and then went over to post what I thought was an Easter egg in the "Any interesting discoveries/Easter eggs?" thread. Came back here in the morning and saw that it had been removed along with your post! Weird. :tinfoil3:


    As for Fallout 4, I've been looking forward to it since I started playing the series several years back. My favorites from best to lest favorite:
    Fallout 2
    Fallout 1
    Fallout NV
    Fallout 3
    Fallout tactics (never played it)
    Fallout Van Buren (never played it)

    The reason I like the first two the most is because they kept up an excellent constancy in story, fallout humor, and combat; and the graphics were not all that bad. They actually left more to the imagination. Fallout NV was a huge improvement from Fallout 3 (I think the main reason for that was because the hired part of the original team who worked on Fallout 1 & 2) but just like F3, it started to get too easy once you reach a certain level; basically you turn invincible. Though, that won't stop me from getting F4. I still need to get and play the DLCs for NV, which reminds me I need to get the ones for MLL, and hopefully by the time I finish them, F4 will come out.
     
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  2. m1shooter2

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    Really pumped about this, I hope they keep the current engine to promote mod intercompatibility though. I don't mind the graphics because with an ENB Fallout becomes an amazing looking game. When it comes to the games, NV is my favorite due to superior gameplay, however I always thought Fallout 3 captured the feel of the 50s best out of all of them. I disliked that you basically knew what was going to happen in the main questline in NV though.
     
  3. TotalAaron

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    Fallout 3 has the best world building hands down :)
     
  4. Lonesome Road is better.

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  5. Potarto

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    Even if all of the promotional stuff is fake (which seems much more likely than not at this point), all of the hype behind it goes to show just how stupidly profitable it would be for Bethesda to release one, and unless they have another project they're working on, I don't see what else they could have spent this time on.

    And while we're sharing our opinions of the games:

    Fallout 3 was the first game I played. Borrowed it from a friend just with the intent to dick around and mess with NPC's, actually became pretty compelled right at the point where I realized I could actually kill the Overseer and suffer the consequences for it. As someone who had normally only really played shooters growing up, this game bridged the gap between them and RPG's. I remember staying up at my friend's house for at least 8 hours straight playing, then bugging my dad to take me to Best Buy so I could grab the game, and then playing it for at least another 10 hours or so. God that game had its flaws, but I never had experienced a game world with as much depth and detail before, and I've probably put at least 300 hours into that game.

    Fallout NV did a lot of cool things towards improving the formula of Fallout 3 (ammo crafting, better skill balance, hardcore mode, a general lack of nonessential characters was my favorite), although it was kind of at the expense of some things that made Fallout 3 great. The game world was much more empty and barren for something that was supposed to be full of life, I never really cared all that much about all of the Politics of the various factions, as in order to progress the story you had to basically just be a chore boy for a bunch of drab and unlikeable characters, instead picking the lesser evil of them. It made sense considering the place in the timeline, but it just wasn't really all that exciting. And while we have tons of non-essential NPC's, it's pretty much more of a burden than anything, since you can't sacrifice long-term benefits like quests and shops for quick, easy loot, what with store inventories becoming magically locked away and all of the good items appearing out of nowhere when you complete quests for people. I still liked NV, but it just didn't have the same charm of exploration as FO3 did. Also, it weirdly seemed to kind of always assume that you were some kind of good guy.

    I went back and played FO1 and 2. The first game actually compelled me quite a bit; I found the whole timeline system to be a pretty cool way to advance the story, although I never understood what the hell was supposed to be doing in combat. I generally just kind of saved before every battle and tried to not shoot Ian as he went mindlessly charging in. The story and dialogue were pretty damn neat though, the master was one hell of a villain.

    FO2....I have less enthusiasm for. I've gone back and tried to play it 3 times now, even once on the lower difficulty. I just can't beat it. It's significantly more punishing than the first one, to the point where I simply die in a few hits. In my last playthrough, I spent tons of time reading guides, and put my Agility at a substantial level. I looked up every quest and loot location for every place I visited to make sure I wasn't under-prepared for what I was supposed to be facing. I then had to spend a ridiculous amount of time in every fight either "stutter-stepping" enemies or running back and forth just out of their range while Vic slowly killed them with his hammer. Human enemies were just impossible, as they typically had more health and better weapons than me, as well as great numbers. Even with multiple armed companions of my own, they would just tear through all of us, with critical hits resulting in at least one of us dieing in a single turn. The only way I could even get around was by just constantly saving in the empty space in every square I passed, and just running from every single fight I spawned into. I eventually got stuck because my only save was at the beginning of the part where you guard the Brahmin from the dogs, who pretty much just kill me in a single turn once they aggro on me.

    I remember getting even further in previous playthroughs, one where I got stuck because after spending 20 hours figuring out how to save my town, they got kidnapped by the Enclave, but pretty much every single enemy in their area of the map killed me in one or two attacks. I had another playthrough after that one where I managed to get the loot from the Radioactive Caves, but I felt kinda cheaty from having just looked up its location online, and didn't like how the only way I could get an edge was to look up the hidden locations of the actually good weapons in the game.

    I actually really enjoyed Fallout Tactics. I never managed to finish it (old HDD crashed), but content-wise, it's probably the longest of all of the Fallout games by a long-shot. The way that you actually benefited from carefully planning out every single little ambush and engagement was nothing short of amazing, it was like an RTS and an RPG combined. Sure the story was kind of far fetched, and sure it had a few bugs (I guess that's what I get for trying to temporarily recruit all of the possible squadmates to sell their starting gear), but that game was really satisfying.

    Wow, that turned out much longer than I thought it would. Well, I think that's all of them. TL:DR FO1 was cool, fuck FO2, FOT was really neat and fun, FO3 was something magical for me, FONV was well done but kind of dull. Except for DLC, loved every DLC pack.
     
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  6. TotalAaron

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    I agree with everything above except i never play DLC (exept for Metro and Oblivion) so i cant comment on lonesome road, i started with 3 and went backwards tactics, 2, 1, and loved all of them
     
  7. Fallout 1 was so bugged on release... And they haven't fixed most of the bugs at all.

    Fallout 2 had a lot of improvements and worked much better. Personally I think that's the best one of them all.

    Tactics was fun, but non-canon.

    BOS was horrible.

    Fallout 3 I liked quite a bit, the D.C. was absolutely sublime and full of scenery porn, but the desert was ugly and boring.

    New Vegas was essentially a giant desert, as badly made as the one for Fallout 3. I didn't like it at all, it had too much pop-culture wild west, way too many politics and not enough post-apocalypse. Lonesome road was what I expected from NV but it was too small.
     
  8. Bamul

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    I never completed FO1 or FO2 (however I played quite a bit of the former and spent loads of time on the latter). Fallout 2 was a significantly better game for me. However, since I played it long after release - it was a bit hard to get into it and something that I really hated about it is that once you got Advanced Power Armour Mk II, the good weapons and the appropriate companions (all of which was not too difficult too achieve), then almost every single fight in the game became a piece of cake... but they still took ages to complete when there were many enemies to fight - not too mention all the misses from both sides. This meant that the battles were long, tedious and unexciting as the outcome was always identical. Still makes me angry just thinking about it.

    Fallout 3 was actually the first one I played from the series and completed. Although it has plenty of imperfections, it felt really special at the time and now it is sort of nostalgic as one of my earlier journeys into (what was at the time) modern gaming. Before moving to the UK, I was living in late 1990s and early 2000s Eastern Europe where we could not afford computers, let lone consoles at our house. :p The only games I got to play were either old games from the late 1980s and 1990s at primary school, occasionally GTA: Vice City and some newer stuff at a friend's house. Years later when me and my brother got our first (shared) PC in England, Oblivion and then Fallout 3 became my favourites. So, yeah, it's kinda nostalgic.

    However, New Vegas is probably my favourite. Although extremely buggy too at release, this game felt much more fleshed out and filled to the brim with detail. That and the old faction system was back. The quest structure was much more complex. Though the main quest was somewhat worse than that of Fallout 3 - all of the side quests, Easter eggs, characters, secret locations and even the flora & fauna of the Nevada wasteland were more plentiful and often more interesting than that of the Washington DC wastes. This most probably also felt superior due to the series' return to a more familiar visual and narrative style, that brought with it an atmosphere more similar to that of FO2 rather than FO3.

    As for the DLC... I can't really say. I haven't played any of it.

    I'm looking forward to Fallout 4 (especially after the impressive game that Skyrim was), but I'm not feeling any hype at all right now. :eek:hwell:
     
  9. NuclearWastE3

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    I liked the feel from the ones in Fallout 3's DLC, The Pitt.

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    First one of the series for me too. :)
     
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  10. TotalAaron

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    Fallout 3 was my first too first ps3 game i ever bought and i still dive in now and then i will pick up the DLC for my birthday any suggestions? (Will buy NV dlc too)
     
  11. Pip314

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    Would not entirely despise the return of a Louis Armstrong song as the intro music for Fallout 4, circa Fallout 2's "A Kiss to Build a Dream on"... Perhaps "La Vie en Rose"?
     
  12. NuclearWastE3

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    Here's some recent stuff that people on reddit were able to decode for us:

    "The Institute is sealed. They won't help us. I'm heading to Black Row. -TBNLS 5120-."

    "Calling all stations, this is Overseer 119 emergency enemy unknown, SOS. Vault 119 Quabbin 7667, repeat, SOS, Vault 119 Quabbin 7667 enemy unknown."

    "Calling all stations, this is Vault Overseer 119, anybody near Quabbin? SOS Vault door breach, repeat, SOS Vault door breach, enemy unknown, level 1, 2, and 3 gone, survivors on secure location level 4."

    "Calling all stations, this is Vault 119 SOS level 4 under attack, Overseer is dead, repeat, SOS level 4 under attack, Overseer is dead. We won't make it."

    "Calling Black Row OTST ground is safe, too late level 4 breached, no survivors, 899 corpses, we are leaving Vault 199"
     
  13. Potarto

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    If you're a really big fan of the game, all of the DLC packs have something to offer.

    1. Anchorage is more actiony. Metacritic: 65/100
    2. The Pitt is like a bite-sized piece of regular FO3. Metacritic: 78/100
    3. Broken Steel extends the ending, most popular DLC. Metacritic: 81/100
    4. Point Lookout is like a more open Pitt. Metacritic 79/100
    5. Mothership Zeta is back to the actiony stuff. Metacritic 68/100

    1. Dead Money is tough, survival-horror-esque. Metacritic 70/100
    2. Honest Hearts is more open and RPG-focused. Metacritic 66/100
    3. Old World Blues is comical, witty, and wide-expansive. Metacritic 82/100
    4. Lonesome Road is linear but really atmospheric. Metacritic 57/100

    I didn't feel like any of them are really duds, but hopefully that should help if you're not in the mood to drop the cash on every piece of DLC. My personal favorites are probably The Pitt and Lonesome Road (both kind of have a neat Metro-vibe in some parts).
     
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    Eww metacritic but thanks mate now to get a network card
     
  15. Potarto

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    Hey, I used the average critic score. The user scores are a whole different story.

    And I think they might still sell discs of the dlc. My friend got one for Xbox.
     
  16. TotalAaron

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    Not in AUS :) oh man i have to reinstall it again
     
  17. Potarto

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    So when you say network card; are you talking about a modem/router so your PS3 can connect or a card for your PC so it can connect? Because if you have it on PC, the GOTY editions cost less than the actual DLC separately. (unless I'm wrong and prices are different for you guys)
     
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    Prices are weird here when i said network card i meant like a prepaid style thing
     
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    Ah, gotcha. First time hearing that one.