Guns, guns, guns...

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  1. dahksinol

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    Gun thread.

    Basically, put pictures, discuss, and debate about guns you like, guns you hate, guns you want, and guns you want to make! In other words, anything that has to do with guns goes here.

    I'll start it off:

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    This, good friends, is the AK-12, one of latest guns coming out of the long line of descendants of Kalashnikov's AK series. Like its predecessor, the AK-101, it fires 5.56x45mm rounds, but unlike the AK-101, it can also fire it's home-caliber 7.62x36 and also the caliber 7.62x56. And it looks hot. Like the new wave of firearms nowadays, it is fitted with the rail-system, a method of adding attachments to guns with a certain ease of doing so, enabling tactical versatility all the while retaining its eastern block or what most call now as 'Warsaw Pact' feel. Plus, it reminds me of the Kalash 12, since that's basically the etymology of the weapon. It was first presented during January 2012, hence its name. Hopefully, it'd live up to my expectations, and someone would be able to replace the Kalash 12 with this baby in my Metro 2033 game when that happens. xD
     
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    The list of guns I've fired is fairly limited - Only the M92 Beretta, M4A1 and the M249 SAW.
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    All of these are with the same attachments I fired them with.
    The M9 was the first gun I ever fired, and when I squeezed the trigger, everything just went slow-mo. The power... Damn, I loved the feeling. And the M4, the precision. But what really makes my mouth water when I think back it is the M249 SAW. Fully automatic deadliness. I couldn't help the feeling that anything on the other end of that muzzle would be instant meatsauce.
    I fired these gun in the States, but I won't go there for at least 3 years, and I regret every day of my life that I didn't shoot more guns, like the PPSh, the AK, M82, P226 etc.
     
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    glock 17
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    AK5C
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    Remington 700
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    Mauser 98

    these would be the rifle I officicially and "unofficially" have fired. the glock 17 or pistol 88 as it called here was so nice.
     
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    Damn you all! I wish I was in a country where I could legally fire a weapon (let alone own one). :p In the UK, even replicas need to be painted a bright, ugly colour and have some other crap attached to them. :( I think the regulations are much less strict in Poland (no stuff needed for replicas, and I think there are some hunter's licences for some types of guns). Anyway, I'm not sure and it doesn't really matter since I don't live there anymore. However, I guess I can post a list of some of the weapons I'd like to fire one day:

    SKS Carbine
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    Pistolet ViS wz. 35
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    PPSH-41 (or the "Pepesha", as we like to call it in most Slavic countries)
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    Mosin-Nagant Model 1891/30
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    StG 44
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    Yep, as you can see, I prefer the look and feel of old weapons over the new ones. :p

    EDIT: Oops, sorry for the huge images - not sure how to re-size them here.
     
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  5. dahksinol

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    I believe we should employ the 'Spoiler' tag to avoid what Bamul is currently having problems with... though I doubt its set to available.
     
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    There ya go, mate. Did it for him ;)
     
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    I really have never fired a gun, but the ones i would like to shoot are:
    Mosin-Nagant, Ppsh-41 (which images are in Bamul's post),

    The AK-74 [​IMG]

    The TT Tokarev [​IMG]

    the PM Makarov [​IMG]

    The Stechkin APS[​IMG]

    The Kar98k [​IMG]

    The M1 Carbine [​IMG]

    The Carcano 91 [​IMG]

    The Type 99 [​IMG]

    and some more, maybe.
    However, i don't think i will ever be able to shoot most of these guns ( if any)
     
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    I want an ak 12 the new real one its gonna change the game.
     
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    I'm with you Bamul on the PPsh 41...! i'm also in the UK, so guns are a no no. So very tempted to book a holday for this:

    http://www.celeritas-sch.com/packages/red_army.html


    Although Bamul, its airsoft weapons that have to be painted, as they are generally used in public areas. i have a de-activated wartime Mosin Nagant 91/30 dated 1942. Perfectly legal to own, i'm over 18 and as long i don't wave it around in public its ok..!

    Other guns? The AK because it's so iconic, and the Saiga 12...
     

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    Thanks for the link Bunny, now I don't have to go to the states anyway!
    They even have that type of stuff in Poland it seems :p
     
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    no worries! also found equivalents in riga, tallin, vilnius etc, i just like that one because you can choose the specific "Red Army" package. They also have a Dragunov which would be very tempting :D
     
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    You can't go wrong with a good ol' AK-74!

    I won't post a picture because i'm pretty sure someone has already posted one.

    I'd also like to try a Dragunov. Does anyone know what specialist sniper teams in Russia use? Because the Dragunov isn't a real sniper.

    The only guns I have fired are Air rifles and airsoft guns.
     
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    I think they use the SAKO TRG or SV98, but I don't have any real evidence. But it seems quite likely, and it would fit their needs quite well.
     
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    Ah the SV-98 I forgot about that, yeah I think they use that. Although like you said it's hard to find any real evidence.
     
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    It is considered a sniper rifle, but its proper category is Marksman Rifle, I believe.

    Though the SVD is a pretty cool rifle, I prefer its bull-pup variant, the SVU. Speaking of sniper rifles, does anyone know about the Arctic Warfare Magnum? I hear it holds the longest killshot. Nothing against the Dragunov's but I prefer bolt-action rifles. They seem to have a certain elegance to them than other, 'base-born' firearms. xD
     
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    Only semi-auto sniper I like is the M110 SASS from KAC.
    Also, the longest kill was made by a McMillan TAC-50 by Robert Furlong, a canadian sniper, I think. The 2nd longest kill was by the same rifle, and by another sniper from the same regiment.
    EDIT: It was apparently beaten recently. Thanks for info, Vanilla :)
     
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    Yes I was trying to recall the name of the gun that got that kill or should I say kills earlier.

    Here's a small bit of an online magazine article about it:

    Corporal Craig Harrison killed two Taliban with consecutive shots at a distance of 2.47 kilometres (8120 ft) in Helmand Province, Afghanistan last November (2009). He then fired a third shot and hit the Taliban's PKM machinegun in perhaps the most prodigious feat of marksmanship in military history.


    If you're wondering why it took so long for Harrison's kill to be made public, (it was made last November and only became commonly known in the last few days), understand that the publicity such a feat brings may not necessarily be wanted, or healthy, particularly if you are still "in theater". Harrison, who also survived a bullet passing through his helmet, and two broken arms from an IED explosion, has now finished his tour of duty and the story can be told.


    He seems a hell of a soldier.
    EDIT: Just realised that Article said nothing about the gun... I'm so bad at this forum business.
    I do prefer bolt actions too, I don't know, there's just something about them that attracts me.
     
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    If we talk about great soldiers, I have to mention a danish tank commander.
    Then on Jan. 22 during a battle circulation tour, Toolan and Jones visited a Danish task force, operating out of Forward Operating Base Price, to say farewell, congratulate them on their many achievements and the accomplishments in Helmand and Nimroz provinces.

    “At that time, the commander pointed out Jacob to the [commanding general] and we had him come up and do a photo session,” said Jones. The (commanding general) got inside the tank and Jacob showed him several technical aspects of the tank.”

    It was just 10 days later that Toolan and Jones once again found themselves in the Bastion Role 3 Hospital visiting Jacob.

    While talking with Toolan, Jacob recalled the events surrounding his second medical evacuation in a month.

    Jacob and his crew were out on a patrol showing the incoming officer-in-charge the lay of the land.

    They were South of Route 611, the main road between Sangin and Kajaki districts, when Jacob noticed something was wrong with one of the tracks on his tank. He stopped the convoy and got out to inspect the track. He noticed that a portion of the track was offset, so he got a hammer and started hitting the track to put it back into place, making the tank more mobile so they could continue their mission.

    It was then Jacob had a feeling that someone was watching him. He looked back over his shoulder and saw somebody approximately 500 meters away. The man proceeded to fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the tank. The RPG fell short as Jacob dived for protection as far from the tank as possible. He came up unscathed and began inspecting the tank for damage.

    After inspecting the tank and deeming it okay, he made an attempt to return to the tank when he was shot in the right shoulder by a sniper. He immediately began yelling to his crew with instructions on the location of the enemy so that they could engage the insurgent.

    With sniper fire hitting the ground all around him Jacob made another attempt to return to his tank. It was then he was shot in his left thigh. Once again he was forced to seek cover.

    When he thought he could make it to the tank, he tried again. As he was crawling into the tank another round from the sniper shot him in his left leg.

    Despite the fact that he had just been shot three times, Jacob instructed his crew from inside the tank on the location of the insurgent. They fired a 120mm round that fell short. However, the second round was a direct hit in the insurgent’s abdomen.

    Jacob contributes his success and health to his crew of 12 years.

    Read more: http://www.dvidshub.net/news/84160/...es-cool-under-fire#.UJJemcVmInc#ixzz2AyDG8Ifk
     
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    The feats some people accomplish during war are truly amazing.
     
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    Yes, I could bring up many more stories, from book like "Bravo Two Zero" and "Jæger - I krig med eliten" ("Hunters - at war with the elite"). Marching 40 miles with 80kg of equipment with two broken ribs, and another guy who took (at least) a month of torture without saying a word about his mission. And that after almost dying from hypothermia.

    Anyway, of guns I'd like to fire (I'm more Western oriented than most of you on this subject, I can tell.) are these:

    AK47: I was a little dissappointed by the lack of kick in the M4. I could hardly feel it, it was like shooting an air rifle. The AK47 would do the trick, I think.
    MP5: Interesting gun, I can't really imagine how it would feel.
    Colt M1911: Mother of all handguns, oughta give a little kick
    M60: I liked the power of the SAW, which is 5,56, so this 7,62 must be even better.
    M14: I could imagine this would be fun. Don't know why.
    M107: I must fire a .50 cal rifle before I pass away, and why not start with the most succesful?
    AS VAL: I don't need to explain this, do I? Spetsnaz mini-sniper with integrated supressor.
     
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